{"id":2480,"date":"2010-10-31T14:31:01","date_gmt":"2010-10-31T20:31:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/?p=2480"},"modified":"2016-11-25T08:22:41","modified_gmt":"2016-11-25T14:22:41","slug":"curve-billed-thrasher-identification","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/archives\/2480","title":{"rendered":"Curve-billed Thrasher Identification"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The AOU checklist committee recently <a title=\"http:\/\/www.aou.org\/committees\/nacc\/proposals\/2009_D_votes_web.php\" href=\"http:\/\/www.aou.org\/committees\/nacc\/proposals\/2009_D_votes_web.php\" target=\"_blank\">rejected a proposal<\/a> to split the Curve-billed Thrasher into two species: the &#8220;Palmer&#8217;s&#8221; Thrasher (<em>palmeri<\/em> group) in Arizona and West Mexico, and the nominate or &#8220;Eastern&#8221; Curve-billed Thrasher (<em>curvirostre <\/em>group) in the rest of the bird&#8217;s range.<\/p>\n\n<table id=\"wp-table-reloaded-id-14-no-1\" class=\"wp-table-reloaded wp-table-reloaded-id-14\">\n<tbody>\n\t<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t\t<td class=\"column-1\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/PalmerCBTH_photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/PalmerCBTH_photo-300x226.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"PalmerCBTH_photo\" width=\"300\" height=\"226\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-2482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/PalmerCBTH_photo-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/PalmerCBTH_photo.jpg 904w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTH_photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTH_photo-300x231.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"CBTH_photo\" width=\"300\" height=\"231\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2483\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTH_photo-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTH_photo-1024x791.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n\t<\/tr>\n\t<tr class=\"row-2\">\n\t\t<td class=\"column-1\">\"Palmer's\" (Western) Curve-billed Thrasher, Desert Botanical Garden, Scottsdale, AZ. Photo by Patrick Coin (Creative Commons 2.0).<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">Nominate (Eastern) Curve-billed Thrasher, Colorado, by Fort Photo (Creative Commons 2.0).<\/td>\n\t<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n<p>Although very similar, the two groups can usually be distinguished by sight. In the photos above, note that the eastern bird (right) has a much whiter background color to the breast, resulting in stronger contrast with the breast spots; it also shows sharper and bolder white highlights in the wings and tail.\u00a0 The stronger throat pattern, with a more distinct dark line bordering the white throat, may also be significant.\u00a0 However, the much colder, grayer tone to the plumage overall is likely an artifact of photo lighting.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, one of the committee members who voted &#8220;yes&#8221; on the split did so in large part because of differences in the call notes between the two forms, which I hadn&#8217;t seen discussed anywhere before:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>YES<\/strong>. I now favor splitting <em>palmeri <\/em>&#8211; the clincher for me is that  <em>palmeri <\/em>has distinct call note differences, a clear upslurred whit-wheet, as opposed to a two note whit-whit in which both notes are the same.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I have investigated this difference, and it seems to hold up across (at least) most of the species&#8217; US range.\u00a0 The vast majority of the call recordings I could find from well inside the range of &#8220;Palmer&#8217;s&#8221; Thrasher showed the same typical pattern: two upslurred whistles that started at the same pitch, with the second one ending much higher:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2494\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2494\" style=\"width: 365px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2494\" title=\"CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"365\" height=\"171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.jpg 365w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19-300x140.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 365px) 100vw, 365px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2494\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&quot;Palmer&#39;s&quot; Curve-billed Thrasher call, Catalina State Park, Pima County, AZ, 2\/23\/2008.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2480-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.mp3\">http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2008-08-19.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>Whereas the call of eastern <em>curvirostre<\/em>-group Curve-billed Thrashers consist of nearly identical notes, both upslurred across a wide frequency range like the second note of the &#8220;Palmer&#8217;s&#8221; call:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2495\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2495\" style=\"width: 585px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2495\" title=\"CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"585\" height=\"171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.jpg 585w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62-300x87.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 585px) 100vw, 585px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2495\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nominate eastern Curve-billed Thrasher call, Carlsbad Caverns National Park, Eddy County, NM, 3\/30\/2008.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2480-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.mp3\">http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcEast-NDP2008-16-62.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>Both groups of Curve-billed Thrashers give versions of this call with 3 or more notes, particularly when they are excited.\u00a0 When the eastern <em>curvirostre <\/em>group does so, as you can see in the spectrogram above, all the notes tend to be similar.\u00a0 When western <em>palmeri<\/em> birds extend their calls, the first note is usually of the stunted variety.\u00a0 The third note (and any subsequent notes) tend to be like the second, but a little softer, so that the second note ends up getting the emphasis: &#8220;wit-WEET-weet&#8221;:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2493\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2493\" style=\"width: 319px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2010-05-512.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2493\" title=\"CBTHcWest-NDP2010-05-512\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2010-05-512.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"319\" height=\"175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2010-05-512.jpg 319w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest-NDP2010-05-512-300x164.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 319px) 100vw, 319px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2493\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&quot;Palmer&#39;s&quot; Curve-billed Thrasher calls (3-noted version), Alamos, Sonora, 7\/3\/2010.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2480-3\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest3-NDP2010-05-512.mp3?_=3\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest3-NDP2010-05-512.mp3\">http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHcWest3-NDP2010-05-512.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>Some Curve-billed Thrashers in southeast Arizona give multi-note calls that are difficult to classify.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s a bird from a few miles south of Eloy in Pinal County, where I believe the <em>palmeri <\/em>subspecies would be expected:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2498\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2498\" style=\"width: 531px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHweirdC-AJS2008-02-22-t02.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2498\" title=\"CBTHweirdC-AJS2008-02-22-t02\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHweirdC-AJS2008-02-22-t02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"531\" height=\"172\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHweirdC-AJS2008-02-22-t02.jpg 531w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/CBTHweirdC-AJS2008-02-22-t02-300x97.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 531px) 100vw, 531px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2498\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Atypical Curve-billed Thrasher calls recorded south of Eloy, Pinal County, AZ, 2\/22\/2008. Recording by Andrew Spencer.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here&#8217;s some more from the same individual bird:<\/p>\n<div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=18040&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:225px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<p>The two-note versions of this individual&#8217;s call tend to seem like the reverse of the typical <em>palmeri <\/em>pattern, with the second note quieter and less extensively upslurred than the others.\u00a0 One might suppose this could be an intermediate bird, since the <em>palmeri <\/em>and <em>curvirostre <\/em>groups apparently overlap in southeast Arizona, but most educated guesses that I&#8217;ve seen have placed the overlap zone farther east, between Tucson and the New Mexico border.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t believe this bird was identified visually to subspecies, so it remains a question mark for now.<\/p>\n<p>Just to whet the appetite of the curious, here&#8217;s a Curve-billed Thrasher call from the Oaxaca valley in southern Mexico, which preliminary DNA studies showed as being distinct from either the palmeri or the curvirostre group (though apparently more closely allied with the latter).\u00a0 Note again the &#8220;WEET-wit&#8221; pattern, which is the reverse of palmeri&#8217;s:<\/p>\n<div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=55749&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:225px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<p>Obviously, more sampling is needed to fill in the many gaps in our knowledge of the Curve-billed Thrasher and its vocal variation.\u00a0 Amateur recordists of the southwestern US and Mexico, this is your cue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The AOU checklist committee recently rejected a proposal to split the Curve-billed Thrasher into two species: the &#8220;Palmer&#8217;s&#8221; Thrasher (palmeri group) in Arizona and West Mexico, and the nominate or &#8220;Eastern&#8221; Curve-billed Thrasher (curvirostre group) in the rest of the bird&#8217;s range.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,16],"tags":[51,52,126],"class_list":["post-2480","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-id","category-taxonomy","tag-curve-billed-thrasher","tag-toxostoma-curvirostre","tag-toxostoma-palmeri"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2480","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2480"}],"version-history":[{"count":23,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2480\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5060,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2480\/revisions\/5060"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2480"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2480"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2480"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}