{"id":4341,"date":"2013-03-31T18:28:48","date_gmt":"2013-04-01T00:28:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/?p=4341"},"modified":"2013-04-01T17:27:47","modified_gmt":"2013-04-01T23:27:47","slug":"greater-vs-lesser-yellowlegs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/archives\/4341","title":{"rendered":"Greater vs. Lesser Yellowlegs"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_4342\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4342\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pbase.com\/wwcsig\/image\/86595812\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4342\" title=\"LEYE_photo\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_photo-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_photo-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_photo-150x99.jpg 150w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_photo-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_photo.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4342\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lesser Yellowlegs, Jamaica Bay National Wildlife Refuge, NY, 9\/30\/2007. Photo by Wolfgang Wander (GFDL).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Can you tell Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs apart by voice?<\/p>\n<p>Can anybody?<\/p>\n<p>A recent <a title=\"http:\/\/xeno-canto.org\/discuss_forum.php?topic_nr=5469\" href=\"http:\/\/xeno-canto.org\/discuss_forum.php?topic_nr=5469\" target=\"_blank\">thread<\/a> on the Xeno-Canto forum started me asking questions about how to identify yellowlegs by voice.\u00a0 Conventional wisdom says the two species can often be separated by their calls, at least with some experience.\u00a0 But as I was comparing the many online <a title=\"http:\/\/xeno-canto.org\/browse.php?species_nr=&amp;query=yellowlegs\" href=\"http:\/\/xeno-canto.org\/browse.php?species_nr=&amp;query=yellowlegs\" target=\"_blank\">recordings<\/a>, I came to an uncomfortable conclusion.\u00a0 Either an awfully high percentage of the recordings were misidentified, or my own identification criteria were wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Today, I invite you to either share my confusion, or help me sort it out.<\/p>\n<h4>History of the problem<\/h4>\n<p>In the old days (i.e., the 20th century), identifying yellowlegs by voice was simpler.\u00a0 Back then, according to the field guides, all you had to do was count the notes:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Field guide<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Greater Yellowlegs<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Lesser Yellowlegs<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Peterson Western (1961)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>A <strong>3-note<\/strong> whistle, <em>whew-whew-whew<\/em>, or <em>dear! dear! dear!<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em>You<\/em> or <em>you-you<\/em> (<strong>1 or 2 notes<\/strong>), less forceful than clear 3-syllabled <em>whew-whew-whew<\/em> of Greater Yellowlegs<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Golden (1983)<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td>sharp <strong>3- to 5-note<\/strong> whistle<\/td>\n<td>soft <strong>1- to 3-note<\/strong> whistle that lacks the loud ringing quality of the Greater&#8217;s<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>National Geographic (1999)<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td>loud, slightly descending series of <strong>3 or more<\/strong> <em>tew<\/em> notes<\/td>\n<td>higher, shorter than in Greater: <strong>1 to 3<\/strong> <em>tew<\/em> notes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Although all three guides suggest differences in pitch and\/or tone quality, most people took away a simple rule: <em>three or more notes is a mark for Greater Yellowlegs, less than three notes is a mark for Lesser<\/em>. Everybody understood that this was a rule of thumb and not a universal law, but still, it was a very popular mental shortcut.<\/p>\n<p>Then Sibley came along, and started complicating matters:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Greater Yellowlegs<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Lesser Yellowlegs<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Sibley (2000)<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Flight call a loud ringing <em>deew deew deew<\/em>; typically three or four notes; higher than Lesser with strident overtones. In agitation an endlessly repeated single note <em>tew, tew<\/em>&#8230;. Feeding bird gives soft, single notes. Display song a melodious, rolling <em>kleewee kleewee<\/em>&#8230;.<\/td>\n<td>Flight call of short whistles <em>tip<\/em> or <em>too-too<\/em> typically flatter and softer than Greater; usually only one or two notes. In agitation a repeated <em>tiw, tiw<\/em>&#8230;. Alarm a rising, trilled <em>kleet<\/em>. Threat a low, rolling trill. Display song a rapid, rolling <em>towidyawid, towidyawid<\/em>&#8230;; lower-pitched than flight call.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Here the numbers are tempered with the words &#8220;typically&#8221; and &#8220;usually,&#8221; and pitch and quality get a little more attention.\u00a0 Most importantly, the yellowlegs are now presented as birds with large vocal repertoires &#8212; you have to be sure you&#8217;re listening to the &#8220;flight call&#8221; before you start counting.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230; how do you tell what you&#8217;re listening to?<\/p>\n<h4>The &#8220;classic&#8221; calls<\/h4>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a pair of recordings from the same location on the same date, by the same recordist, that fit all the classic descriptions of the two species&#8217; &#8220;flight calls&#8221;:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4367\" title=\"GRYE_spec\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"411\" height=\"238\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec.jpg 411w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec-150x86.jpg 150w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec-400x231.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<td>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4368\" title=\"LEYE_spec\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"411\" height=\"238\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec.jpg 411w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec-150x86.jpg 150w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec-400x231.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=124877&#038;simple=1\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:110px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=124878&#038;simple=1\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:110px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Besides the number of notes, check out the huge difference in the <em>shape<\/em> of each note on the spectrogram.\u00a0 Lesser gives a pretty simple downslurred whistle, while Greater has a much more complex pattern.\u00a0 If you look carefully, you can see that <strong>each note of the Greater&#8217;s call contains an upward voice break<\/strong>.\u00a0 This means each note is 2-parted, the second part suddenly jumping to a much higher pitch.\u00a0 This happens so fast in each note that we still tend to hear the two parts as one, but the overall impression is very different from Lesser, more of a &#8220;klee-klee-klee&#8221; than a &#8220;pew-pew-pew.&#8221;\u00a0 The higher second part of each note is what Sibley refers to as the &#8220;strident overtones&#8221; of Greater.<\/p>\n<h4>The alarm series<\/h4>\n<p>Both yellowlegs give loud, incessant calls in series when they are upset, year-round. In Greater these notes are noticeably rougher than the typical &#8220;flight call,&#8221; due to a brief burry or grating sound in the middle of each note. In Lesser, the notes of the alarm call strongly resemble the notes of the &#8220;flight call,&#8221; but marginally higher. They are perfectly clear, without any trace of roughness:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=29372&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=85449&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h4>Where it gets complicated<\/h4>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the bad news. Based on a set of positively-identified recordings (mostly those that also contain examples of each species&#8217; diagnostic song, in the Macaulay Library collection), it&#8217;s pretty clear that<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the notes in Greater Yellowlegs &#8220;flight calls&#8221; don&#8217;t always break.<\/li>\n<li>the notes in Lesser Yellowlegs &#8220;flight calls&#8221; sometimes do.<\/li>\n<li>in both species, the number of notes in a &#8220;flight call&#8221; depends on the agitation level of the bird.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=43988&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=12583&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=59155&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=110166&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have any reason to believe these four recordings are misidentified. In fact, I was present for the recording of Andrew&#8217;s Dove Creek bird, and as I recall, it was seen well and its identification was uncontroversial.\u00a0 All these examples sound like they&#8217;ve got Lesser&#8217;s tone quality and Greater&#8217;s note pattern, and without visual clues, I&#8217;m not sure they&#8217;re identifiable, even on the spectrogram.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s another pair of examples:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4375\" title=\"GRYE_spec2\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"379\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec2.png 379w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec2-300x122.png 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/GRYE_spec2-150x61.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 379px) 100vw, 379px\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4376\" title=\"LEYE_spec2\" src=\"http:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"414\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2.png 414w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2-300x114.png 300w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2-150x57.png 150w, https:\/\/earbirding.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/LEYE_spec2-400x152.png 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 414px) 100vw, 414px\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\u00a0Greater Yellowlegs, from Macaulay Library <a title=\"http:\/\/macaulaylibrary.org\/audio\/27042\" href=\"http:\/\/macaulaylibrary.org\/audio\/27042\" target=\"_blank\">27042<\/a> (click to listen)<\/td>\n<td>\u00a0Lesser Yellowlegs, from Macaulay Library <a title=\"http:\/\/macaulaylibrary.org\/audio\/26256\" href=\"http:\/\/macaulaylibrary.org\/audio\/26256\" target=\"_blank\">26256<\/a> (click to listen; this vocalization is from the eighth minute)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>There are some differences in pitch and inflection here, especially towards the end, but the opening notes are nearly identical, and match my expectations for the &#8220;classic&#8221; Greater Yellowlegs tone quality.<\/p>\n<h4>A gallery of confusing yellowlegs<\/h4>\n<p>I&#8217;m relatively confident about the ID of all the recordings I&#8217;ve posted so far, but I&#8217;m not at all sure about the ones that follow. The only thing I&#8217;m sure of is that an awful lot of yellowlegs recordings thwart my original expectations of both species.\u00a0 Perhaps these next few recordings are all wrong, and yellowlegs identification isn&#8217;t as hard as I&#8217;m making it out to be! Perhaps they&#8217;re all or mostly right, and yellowlegs identification is very tricky indeed.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=10003&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=48598&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=32297&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=17513&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=5804&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=86439&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=109395&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<td><div class=\"iframe-wrapper\">\n  <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.xeno-canto.org\/embed.php?XC=15278&#038;simple=0\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"height:220px;width:400px;\">Please upgrade your browser<\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Any comments on the identification of these recordings, and yellowlegs vocal ID in general, would be greatly appreciated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can you tell Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs apart by voice?  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